A historical incident occurred in the UFO community, where the US Congress held UAP hearings based on the information shared by three legendary whistleblowers. On July 26, 2023, David Grusch, David Fravor & Ryan Graves testified before the US Congress. It perhaps will forever change the way society viewed the possibility of intelligent life beyond our planet.
In his testimony before a House Oversight subcommittee, former UAP Task Force member and US Air Force veteran David Grusch testified that the U.S. government has been concealing a longstanding program that retrieves and reverse engineers unidentified flying objects (UFOs), or as the U.S. government officially terms them, “unidentified aerial phenomena” (UAPs).
Congressman Robert Garcia questioned Grusch whether he believed the US government possessed UAPs. Grusch responded with a firm “Absolutely,” stating that his belief was based on interviews with over 40 witnesses conducted over four years.
Garcia further inquired about the specific locations of these UAPs, and Grusch claimed to have exact knowledge of these locations. “I know the exact locations. And those locations were provided to the Inspector General and some of which to the intelligence committees. I actually had the people with the firsthand knowledge provide a protected disclosure to the Inspector General,” he said.
Rep. Tim Burchett expressed gratitude to Grusch for his testimony and asked if he had faced any retaliation for coming forward. Grusch confirmed that there was an open whistleblower reprisal investigation related to his testimony, and he had to be cautious about sharing further details. He revealed that he had experienced brutal and unfortunate tactics used against him both professionally and personally.
Burchett went on to ask if Grusch had any knowledge of people being harmed or injured in efforts to cover up or conceal extraterrestrial technology. Grusch responded affirmatively, “Yes, personally.” He had such knowledge and had directed relevant individuals to the appropriate authorities. When asked about potential murders, Grusch said he had to be careful but suggested discussing such matters in a confidential environment, although they were denied access to a secure facility (Skiff).
Rep. Jamie Raskin questioned Grusch about his experience after coming forward. Grusch mentioned overwhelming support from former colleagues who privately messaged him but expressed concerns about active reprisal activities against himself and others. He refrained from providing more details publicly but offered to do so in a closed environment.
Raskin reassured Grusch that there would be a bipartisan rejection of any attempt to vilify or engage in reprisals against witnesses speaking the truth. Grusch then mentioned that some of his colleagues were administratively attacked, which he referred to as “Administrative Terrorism,” used to silence people who care about their careers and reputations in the government service.
Rep. Anna Paulina Luna asked Grusch if he had ever been in fear for his life due to addressing these issues, to which he responded affirmatively. Luna emphasized the significance of Grusch’s willingness to come forward despite the fear of reprisal. Luna also inquired if Grusch had any knowledge of non-human intelligence working with adversarial foreign governments, but Grusch stated he did not have data on that matter.
Regarding a conversation with Dr. Kirkpatrick, head of ARRO, Grusch confirmed he had briefed him on concerns related to national security before he took over ARRO. However, he could not explain why Kirkpatrick did not follow up with him on those matters.
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Luna then asked Grusch if he had received prior approval from the Defense Department to speak on certain issues, to which he confirmed he had gone through the prepublication and security review process. Grusch clarified that his views and opinions were his own and not representative of the departments, and he was required by law, as a former intelligence officer, to handle classified information responsibly.
Throughout the hearing, Grusch’s testimony provided insight into the government’s possession of UAPs and the challenges he faced after coming forward as a witness, shedding light on potential reprisals and attempts to suppress information.
During the UAP hearing, Rep. Jared Moskowitz questioned David Grusch about his knowledge and direct encounters related to non-human origin craft and advanced technologies within the US government.
Moskowitz asked Grusch if he had met people with direct knowledge of non-human origin craft, to which Grusch confirmed that he had personally interviewed such individuals. He then inquired about Grusch’s knowledge of advanced technologies held by the US government based on conventional advanced tech. Grusch stated that he had been briefed on the majority of the Defense Department’s space and aerospace compartment programs.
The congressman asked if there were unsanctioned programs in the advanced tech space, and Grusch affirmed that such programs existed. When asked about the lack of congressional oversight for these programs, Grusch explained that some special access programs (SAPs) were exempt from congressional reporting, but the “Gang of Eight” was supposed to be notified when an unacknowledged SAP was created.
Moving on to funding, Moskowitz asked how such programs were funded, and Grusch said he could provide general information in an open session but could be more specific in a closed session. When asked about misappropriation of funds, Grusch confirmed he had specific knowledge of it.
The discussion then shifted to whether US corporations were overcharging for tech sold to the government, and Grusch explained that additional money could be channeled into programs through Internal Research & Development (IRAD) programs.
Satellite imagery became the next topic, with Moskowitz mentioning the vast number of satellites capturing images. Grusch, having worked at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA), stated that he had personally reviewed overhead collection and other strategic and tactical platforms’ imagery, including some he could not explain easily, despite his background in physics. He hinted that there were reports of this imagery, but for some reason, the lawmakers had not seen them.
When Moskowitz asked about satellite imagery of crash sites, Grusch declined to discuss it in an open session. The congressman then questioned whether the US government was involved in a disinformation campaign to deny the existence of certain UAPs, to which Grusch referred back to his previous public statements and interview on News Nation, implying that he could not elaborate further due to sensitive matters.
During the UAP hearing, Rep. Tim Burchett asked David Grusch if the US government had become aware of evidence of extraterrestrial or otherwise unexplained forms of intelligence. Grusch preferred using the term “non-human” to keep the aperture open scientifically. He mentioned that evidence of such intelligence dates back at least to the 1930s. (Grusch is referring to his case)
Burchett then requested names, titles, and access information of individuals with firsthand knowledge of crash retrieval programs and the facilities where recovered materials were stored. Grusch declined to provide this information publicly but claimed to have shared it with the intelligence committees and the Inspector General and suggested discussing it in a closed environment.
Rep. Eric Burlison focused on harmful or aggressive activity caused by UAPs. Grusch revealed that he knew multiple colleagues who had been physically injured, attributing the activity to both UAPs and individuals within the federal government.
Burlison inquired about Grusch’s statement regarding the US having intact spacecraft and alien bodies or species. Grusch clarified that he could not discuss specifics openly but was willing to address such matters in a closed session.
The discussion then shifted to the concept of alien species traveling vast distances to Earth. Burlison found it difficult to believe that advanced beings could crash on Earth. Grusch offered a theoretical framework, including the holographic principle, and mentioned the potential for multidimensional travel.
When asked if the UAPs could be domestic military aircraft mistakenly perceived as alien in origin, Grusch considered it a hypothetical situation and was not aware of any historical cases matching that description.
Throughout the questioning, Grusch was cautious in providing specific details publicly but suggested discussing sensitive matters in a secure environment, emphasizing his commitment to factual testimony as a fact witness and expert.